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Post by Remrafian on Nov 16, 2014 2:46:52 GMT
A couple of fully charged sprees might set Her straight followed by a lucky slash roll
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Post by Cthulhu-Boy on Nov 16, 2014 14:51:21 GMT
Yeah colossal figures have great benefits but at the same time great hindrances. Some of the niftiness of a Giant they lack, but they make up for it with uber deep dials. WizKids Pacific Rim set was interesting in that all were colossal on a standard puck base. One of them is super beastly and I played him in a golden age Heroclix game. Guess who won (something that happens on only the bluest of moons)!
When he reaches his KO click you move his dial back to the starting line and roll a d6. You take penetrating damage equal to the result -1. I rolled a 1. Full dial all over again!
I thought it was an amazing way to deal with a colossal sized dial on a standard click base (although he's the only one who does that).
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Post by Remrafian on Nov 16, 2014 16:45:59 GMT
A colossal on a standard base? Wizkids love throwing scale out the window hey.
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Post by Cthulhu-Boy on Nov 17, 2014 4:46:23 GMT
Truly, but as PR was meant to be a stand alone set, they didn't worry about it. Here's the ultimate in Doh on Wizkids part: None of the Jaegars or Kaiju have Super Strength! So they cannot lift even a brick to use as a weapon (never mind the ship that was used as a club!)
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Post by Remrafian on Nov 17, 2014 7:49:35 GMT
That is FAIL.
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Post by Cthulhu-Boy on Nov 17, 2014 17:38:55 GMT
100% agreement! The sculpts are lovely though.
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Post by Remrafian on Nov 17, 2014 18:48:51 GMT
Hmm, I shall go check em out.
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Post by Cthulhu-Boy on Nov 18, 2014 5:37:10 GMT
Do so! BTW, we may be barking up the wrong tree regarding a difference between giant and colossal figures. Here is the text from the Heroclix Powers and Abilities card (which is what we would alter for Horrorclix).
Colossal figures have two powers Colossal Stamina & Great Size.
Here's Colossal Stamina:
This character automatically breaks away and may make a ranged combat attack against any opposing character within range and line of fire, even if that character is in an adjacent space. When this character has two action tokens, it can be given a non-free action. If you do, after actions resolve deal it 1 unavoidable damage and do not clear action tokens from it at the end of the turn. This ability can't be countered.
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Post by Cthulhu-Boy on Nov 18, 2014 5:37:29 GMT
Here's Great Size:
This character ignores elevated terrain, hindering terrain and outdoor blocking terrain for movement purposes. This character may move through squares adjacent to or occupied by opposing characters. This character can't be knocked back. When this character makes a close combat attack, it may target characters on higher elevations. This character may draw lines of fire (and have lines of fire drawn to it) as if the character occupied the elevation equal to or greater than the elevation it occupies, using the elevation level with the least restrictive line of fire. This ability can't be countered.
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Post by Cthulhu-Boy on Nov 18, 2014 5:38:13 GMT
And for the ha-has of it all, here's the Heroclix power Giant Reach:
This character ignores opposing characters' Plasticity and adds 1 to its d6 roll when breaking away. When this character is given a move action it can use the Carry ability. When this character is given an action that includes a close combat attack, all squares within a range of 2 and line of fire are considered adjacent. This ability can't be countered.
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Post by Cthulhu-Boy on Nov 18, 2014 5:39:38 GMT
It almost seems as though WizKids may have gotten something right by sticking with Giant for Horrorclix. It pretty much does everything a Colossal can do.
What do you think?
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Post by Cthulhu-Boy on Nov 21, 2014 0:22:16 GMT
I'm bumping this for input! I really need to know if we really do need Horrorclix Colossal rules, as Horrorclix already eliminates the need of Colossal Stamina and Great Size seems to be covered by the Horrorclix Giant rules.
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Post by Cthulhu-Boy on Nov 21, 2014 0:28:28 GMT
Brother 'Zilla,
I think her "This monster does not receive an action token, but may be given only one action per turn." may want to go away as it doesn't work with Horrorclix. It does seem similar to one of the special powers for a certain Heroclix Colossal. In hindsight, it appears the WizKids gave nearly all of the powers associated with Heroclix Colossals to the Horrorclix Giants!
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Post by godzilla on Nov 21, 2014 1:55:22 GMT
Yea, I grabbed the rules from Alien Queen but I do think we need Colossal rules I was looking over figure I've made 7 big dial monsters (Trick-Se throne,Dunwich Horror,Madness,the Blob,Godzilla,Gigan and Slash Fang).
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Post by Cthulhu-Boy on Nov 21, 2014 4:58:54 GMT
Understood. But the main thing I have noticed is that the Horrorclix Giant rules grant everything that the Heroclix Colossal rules do. I think the idea of Continual powers unique to the monster may be in order. All of the old Heroclix Colossals have them (and man can Fin Fang Foom piss people off, his special rules break all standard rules). I'll do a work up on Colossal rules for Horrorclix and we'll see how everyone feels about them. I figure we can bash the ideas around and come up with a consensus.
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Post by Remrafian on Nov 21, 2014 9:22:37 GMT
There does need to be some sort of fluff in terms of ruling a colossal, it's the same as Godzilla having a fight with Goliath... I know which I'd place my bet on. I'm guessing this is why Horrorclix only has 1.
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Post by Cthulhu-Boy on Nov 21, 2014 16:31:18 GMT
Yeah, but he's not classified as such! That's why I was thinking that the existing Horrorclix giant rules handle the whole colossal thing rather well...
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Post by godzilla on Nov 21, 2014 23:33:26 GMT
I do think there need to be something different with Colossal clix like Cthulu vs something like Trick-Se which is only Sentinel size vs something like my Blob which shorterr than more clixs but still on the giant (4 square) base
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Post by Cthulhu-Boy on Nov 22, 2014 3:45:43 GMT
I'll play around and post my ideas. That everyone can throw their two cents in and then we can consolidate rules.
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Post by godzilla on Nov 22, 2014 21:16:36 GMT
sound cool
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